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Esoteric Greek history problematic for archaeologists
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Lars Wilson
2008-02-09 04:30:23 UTC
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Esoteric Greek historians tell a second historical tale that proves
revisionism. There is a reason why two major Greek historians wrote about
detailed Persian history. Ultimately this will affect earlier dating such
as the dating for the invasion by Sishak, now mis-dated to 925 BCE but
should be dated to 871 BCE where the RC14 dating points to. Shishak was an
EGYPTIAN pharaoh, in case you were not aware of it (note to JTEM!).

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Now that we have a firm handle on understanding the chronology from the
Persian Period and establishing that Xerxes faked his own death and
claimed
to be his son, Artaxerxes, all the history for this period will have to be
corrected.
Some of the amazing details that comes out in the esoteric references
includes why Xerxes wanted to destroy the Athenians in the first place.
Turns out that while Darius was stationed at Marathon at a time when war was
not yet declared and Persia still had diplomatic relations with Athens, but
was suspected of surveying the coast for an upcoming invasion, he was
introduced to a beautiful Greek woman whom he later saw in private. The
woman killed and beheaded him. That is why Xerxes wanted revenge so badly
and wanted to kill the Athenians. He was not interested in conquering them
as part of the Persian Empire.

This detail is one of the discrepancies in the history, depending upon whom
you read. Herodotus distorts from this by transferring the beheading to the
history of Cyrus, where a queen fighting against Cyrus in battle demands his
head. Xenophon though, reports that Cyrus died peacefully at home. When
you find a contradiction like this and you know the general history it is
not hard to set the event into the context. Here's some more background:

Herodotus' account of the battle of Marathon is our most important source.
(A summary and a comment can be found over here.) He wants us to believe
that Marathon was an important victory, but this is incorrect. It was a
rearguard action, and we know for certain that Artaphernes remained in the
king's favor; it is likely that Datis had the same experience. After all,
from now on, the Aegean Sea was under Persian control, preventing new Greek
attacks on Persian dominions.

Not all Greeks were convinced by Herodotus' story. There is one Greek text,
written c.100 CE, which gives us the Persian side of the story - Marathon
had been a minor setback (Dio Chrysostom, Oration 11.148-149).
Unfortunately, we do not know whether the author gives us reliable
information from an ancient Persian source, or invents this story.

The Greek historian Ctesias of Cnidus, who is not know for his reliability,
states that Datis died during the battle of Marathon. The Athenians refused
to return his body when the Persians asked for it. There is no way to verify
or refute this statement.

Interesting detail from Ctesias! Ctesias is often suppressed as a historian
but from him we learn that he was the physician for Artaxerxes II for 17
years and that Cyrus was the son-in-law rather than grandson of Astyages.
He seems to be hinting at what really happened in history. The Datis
reference about the Greeks keeping the body of "Datis" and not returning it
upon their request suggests that the head of Darius was never recovered;
that is, it is taken as a potential reference to the beheading of Darius I.

Sure, it is subjective interpretation, but it's there in the middle of some
contradictions and it makes sense in the overall picture if Darius was
actually at Marathon, and I wouldn't he have been, after all, it was HIS
expedition. The only reason historically why Darius is not at Marathon is
because the revised Persian timeline added 30 years to his rule but could
only compensate 26 years of those 30 from the Neo-Babylonian Period. When
the timeline is reconstructed Darius' 6th year matches the same year as the
Battle of Marathon. The Bible gives the accession year of "Artaxerxes" (the
newly adopted name by Xerxes) in year 6 of Darius, the same year the temple
was completed. So when you put together the loose ends it tends to make
sense. That is, that Darius and his army were at Marathon watering horses
simply on a survey mission. The Athenians thought why wait until a formal
attack, just kill the king now, so they introduced him to a beautiful woman
who did kill him and behead him. A battle ensued and the Athenians refused
to return the head of the king. No way would this be forgotten by Xerxes
and it explains the context of his invasion of Greece with a focus only on
Athens and a focus to destroy and masacre the population. They knew this
and thus as soon as Xerxes began his march the Athenians had in place a
massive evacuation plan, evacuating to Troezin and Marathon, where there was
some means of protection because of the narrow straits leading to the
island. The Greeks smartly built smaller vessels for this impending
attack, one they knew was to occur, thus they were able to destroy the
Persian naval fleet which could only enter the small channel a few ships at
a time.

You see, what actually happened fits the details rather than the cover story
does. The current story is that Xerxes amassed his huge army to focus on
Athens just because of losing a battle at Marathon, as if it was just a
contest. That pales when you realize the Athenians had murdered and
beheaded the great king of Persia.

BUT....if one is convinced of this, and we're seeing clever ways of hiding
esoteric history, then it means the historians cannot be fully trusted. It
means that we only have politically correct history coming down to us and
subject to closer investigation, particularly where there are discrepancies
or strange references like in Herodotus where some soldier at Marathon goes
mysteriously blind and sees a vision of a huge warrior with a huge beard
that covers his entire shield come and kill the man next to him. Why
relate that as significant history? Clearly, though, this was the best
cover-up Herodotus could do to place Darius at Marathon. The King of
Persia was known for his extremely long beard.

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Again, in order to coordinate the Jewish reference that Darius died in his
sixth year, and this reference for the death of Darius at Marathon, the
Battle of Marathon must occur in the same year as the recalculated sixth
year of Darius. That is a critical challenge to the esoteric history
reference as well as to the redating by eclipse. But it works out
perfectly! The 402 BCE eclipse dating the first year of the PPW in 403 BCE
means Xerxes invasion occurs 30 years prior to the 10th year of the War
which falls in 394 BCE. That is when a 30-year peace agreement expires.
That means Xerxes invades in 424 BCE, the same year the Olympics were held
as well as an eclipse appears in the spring. That checks out. The Battle
of Marathon thus falls in 434 BCE, 10 years earlier. Now to harmonize that
with the death of Darius, 434 BCE also must be the sixth year of Darius per
the strict Biblical timeline which dates the 1st of Cyrus in 455 BCE (now
confirmed by the VAT4956). The temple at Jerusalem is also finished this
year which took 21 years. So we simply can add 21 years to 434 BCE to get
the 1st of Cyrus, which matches perfectly with 455 BCE. That's amazing!
Everything is now explained.

Except now, with the 1st of Cyrus falling in 455 BCE, archaeologists who
date that event in 537 BCE now must deal with removing 82 years from the
Persian timeline. That looks like a lot of years, generally, but it truly
is not difficult to remove those years because they are fake years anyway.
You simply have to know precisely where to remove those years.

Since Darius only rules for 6 years rather than 36 and Xerxes and Artaxerxes
are the same king, that automatically removed 51 years right off the bat.
That means we only really have to find 32 extra years in the other part of
the history. As noted, Ktesias insinuates Artaxerxes II only ruled for 17
years, which allows us to reduce that rule by 30 years. The odd 1 year is
removed from the 8-year rule of Kambyses who actually ruled one of those
years as co-ruler with his father Cyrus. Voila! All 82 years quickly
removed!

Related Greek history reduction is just as easy because of that
all-important eclipse that doesn't match 531 BCE, a war that we know is at
least 20 years displaced because of "The Delian Problem" which confirms
Plato was already an adult when the war began. The precisely described
eclipse is found on 1/18/402 BCE, which as noted above, completely agrees
with the Biblical timeline for the 6th of Darius who dies at Marathon in 434
BCE.

Finally, when we put this new dating into the bigger archaeological picture,
as has been pointed out, suddenly Solomon gets redated to 910-870 BCE and
Shishak's invasion to 871 BCE in year 39 of Solomon which is where the RC14
dating from Rehov precisely points! Archaeologists are smart, educated
people. This is not a hard sell. Even the fall of Jericho by the
Israelites between 1350-1325 BCE per Kathleen Kenyon would date Solomon
during the same period, no earlier than 914 BCE. So all the archaeological
"pointers" were already there. It was just a matter of coming up with a
convincing means of downdating the Persian Period by 54 years using the 709
BCE eclipse. That's what's missing. The archaeologists inexpertise at
ancient history when it comes to the fixed Assyrian Period, which they date
per custom and tradition rather than actual scientific archaeology.
Interestingly, they use archaeological dating to claim the Bible is revised,
but ignore that same archaeological reference when it comes to challenging
the distorted conventional timeline when so indicated.

"Esoteric" historical references are found in Josephus, Herodotus and
Xenophon and Ctesias. When you put all the loose ends together another
history comes forth that then agrees with more reliable historical sources,
such as the Bible. So yes, two versions of history do survive.
Archaeologists are using the "politically correct" revised history instead
of the true history. As a result, their timeline from the Assyrian Period
is 54 years too early, which is why they are having problems linking Shishak
with his own invasion, which the archaeology and RC14 is showing occurs c.
871 BCE rather than 925 BCE. We're all holding our breath to see how long
the archaeologists like Finkelstein and Mazar who deal specifically with the
Solomon, David and Shishak issues will figure out the only problem is the
mis-dated Assyrian timeline, meaning there is no Bible vs archaeological
contradiction here at all, except the one they are presuming exists but
doesn't. And since they can't suddenly become Greek historical experts
overnight, they have to deal with what historical experts have now
discovered -- the new Greco-Persian timeline that dates the 1st of Cyrus to
455 BCE and the 37th of Nebuchadnezzar to 511 BCE (per VAT4956). That
dating, in turn forces the Assyrian Period to be dated by the 709 BCE
eclipse rather than the 763 BCE eclipse.

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? All archaeologists have to do is check out the
details. It's not that hard to determine whether there is evidence Darius
ruled for 36 years, is it? Archaeologists certainly can do that!! Of
course, a huge problem immediately presents itself when we find "Artaxerxes"
buried between Darius I and Darius II, now doesn't it? There is a huge
problem, archaeologically speaking when the tomb of Xerxes is newer than the
tombs of Darius I, Artaxerxes and Darius II, suggesting that tomb wasn't
even created until after the death of Darius II. But then, that fits the
general timeline of the conspiracy too. It would have been Artaxerxes II
who worked with Xenophon to fix the Greek timeline, so the fake tomb would
have been seen as a necessity during this second revision. Iti is possible
it was constructed during the reign of Darius II, though, since we have
proof that the Babylonian Chronicle was "copied" (meaning REVISED) during
the reign of Darius II.

SHISHAK 871 BCE: RISE TO THE PLATE - CHANGE THE DATE!

Lars Wilson

(New!) Corrected Timeline Outline:
http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/709guide.html
JTEM
2008-02-09 04:36:27 UTC
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